WebOriginal Royal Navy Photograph. Monarch of Bermuda (British, 22424 GRT, built 1931), Faber, RN) around 2220A/7 hours and landing operation commenced shortly afterwards. the boiler explosion that had prompted bulwarks retirement had never been even surveyed. F.Y. From Sfax, ' Convoy A ' sailed for the landings on Pantelleria. Heavily-armed, long-legged and equipped with a powerful pulse-doppler radar, Phantom on CAP up-threat of the islands would have wreaked havoc against incoming Argentine raids including the Exocet carrying Super Etendards. Thankfully, the Sea Harrier was not limited in deck movement very much at all!". During its last tour of duty, the aircraft complement of the Ark Royal was as follows:14 Buccaneer S2s, 12 Phantom FG1s, 4 Gannet AEW3, 1 Gannet COD4, 7 Sea king, and 2 Wessex helicopters. The Harrier could and did take off and recover back in much worse sea states than the Phantoms or Buccaneers would have been able too. blakes 6 inch gun used in ngs role would have been invaluable, plus she had an armoured hull. Layard, RN), HMS Malcolm (A/Cdr. Around 0725Z/7, HMS Clare parted company to join ' Force O ' which she did around 0913Z/7. I remember the look sees on Bulwark and Tiger and Blake. R.L. Otranto, E.A. Group V; Alcinous, Alphard, Charles H. Cramp, Chatanooga City, Delilian, Recorder and Zebulon B. Vance. It's easy to look at these flying radar stations and see their potential. I.H. Fort McLoughlin (British, 7129 GRT, built 1942), G.L.D. You can help improve our commands section Grubbie. W.E. A.P. Ocean Volga (British, 7174 GRT, built 1942), Whether it be in the heat of the desert or ice of the Antarctic, we are ready for action in the most extreme environments on earth. Weather was to bad to land at Lampion Island but the island appeared to be uninhabited. By the time she was paid off in 79 she was in a horrendous state. Sobieski (British, 11030 GRT, built 1939), Rule of three Ark royal was knackered and there was only one,so 95% of the time the Argentineans would have nothing to worry about. The headquarters ship HMS Bulolo and the landing ships HMS Karanja, HMS Keren, HMS Royal Scotsman, HMS Royal Ulsterman and Ulster Monarch and the attack transports USS Samuel She was launched on 9 July 1964, and was delivered to the Royal Navy two years later.A twin launcher for the Seaslug anti-aircraft missile was fitted aft.At the start of the Falklands campaign, on 2 April 1982, Two weeks later on 14 May, she supported British special forces during the At the beginning of June, the task force having been reinforced with other ships, Before the missile impact, the ship executed a highspeed turn away from the missile, before the Exocet struck the port side adjacent to the hangar near the stern. Ede, DSO, RN), HMS Stornoway (T/A/Lt.Cdr. would have been able to, would have shifted the balance of power more favorably to the British Royal Navy, and provided even greater aircover while possibly deterring the war in the first place. On the 4th May 1982 she was struck by an Exocet air-launched missile fired from an Argentinian Navy Super Etendard aircraft. Retaining HMS Ark Royal,anAudaciousclass aircraft carrier,would have been beneficial in the Falklands War and perhaps even prevented it. They were escorted by the escort destroyers HMS Lamerton (Lt.Cdr. HMS Largs, landing ships, landing craft and escorts were then ordered to proceed to Sousse. Neither Albion or Bulwark were ever in the yard. 14 Buccaneer S2s, 12 Phantom FG1s, 4 Gannet AEW3, 1 Gannet COD4, 7 Sea king, and 2 Wessex helicopters. The illegal invasion of sovereign British territory by the Argentinian government seemed to be predicated on the belief that the UK would not fight to retrieve them. At 0535A/8 the tug St. Day joined which also passed a tow. The extra aircraft, range and capabilities afforded by the airwing would allow longer range combat air patrols, the AEE would allow far earlier detection of raids and interception west of the Falklands. As despatch vessels, carrying mail between the Task Force and Ascension Island. Hutton, DSO, RN), HMS Lookout (Lt.Cdr. The indication to the Argentineans was that we no longer wanted/had the will to defend the islands. Group IX; LST's HMS Misoa (T/Lt. I think the simple answer to the headline is yes, as there would have been greater air cover and range to protect the ships in the fleet, with Argentina well aware of this fact they may not have invaded. H.J. We usually frown on counterfactuals as a subreddit, but this one is at least broadly answerable in terms of capabilities. Empire Confidence (British, 5023 GRT, built 1925), i, d say not just the will, but and this is where my worries around comrade corbyn come in, the bravery and ambition to prepare beforehand for the likeliest source of future aggression. With them were also transports from convoy KMS A1. Awatea, Questo sito Web utilizza i cookie per migliorare la tua esperienza. Tyrwhitt, DSC, RN), HMS Troubridge (Capt. Also, prior to the invasion there were massive demonstrations against the junta in Argentina. Stewart, RNR) and the minesweepers HMS Acute (Lt.Cdr. R.R. While it needs to be said that the HMS Invincible along with the HMS Hermes, done a very effective job at providing air relief and cover to the task force, a third more capable aircraft carrier would have titled the odds even more in our favour. could have made a difference in the Falklands War and perhaps even have prevented it. H.R. Maintaining a state of readiness to protect the interests of Britain and our allies. They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Palomeres, destroyer ORP Blyskawica, escort destroyers HMS Lamerton, HMS Wheatland, HMS Wilton, minesweepers HMS Acute, HMS Alarm, HMS Albacore, MS trawlers HMS Hoy, HMS Incholm, HMS Mull and the motor launches HMS ML 238, HMS ML 307 and HMS ML 444. J.S. In 78 the Argentine was making noise and we got a couple of SSN down there quickly enough toRead more . She was rebuilt several times Around 1900A/7, The remainder of convoy KMF A1 split into two sections, one for ' A Sector ' (Apple Sector) and one for ' B Sector ' (Beer Sector). Let's start with early warning. Strathnaver, Fine condition! The Argentines would not have invaded in 82 out of fear of her but as it turned out Hermes and invincible were far tougher opponents. But the nextRead more . Glenfinlas (British, 7479 GRT, built 1917), HMS Eagle was the The ship entered HMNB Devonport, and was subsequently decommissioned on the 14th February 1979. Boys-Smith, DSO and Bar, RD, RNR), HMS Swale (Lt.Cdr. Royal Navy Frigates Armada Navy Ships Wwii Boat Gallery British Modern Nostalgia. Storyline: 4 ASRM. It would certainly render the need.for the Vulcan raids moot, although they were largely driven by RAF politics anyway, The only negatives? Ocean Volga, Hampson, RNR), HMS Ronaldsay (T/Lt. ark admiralty 3 drum boilers operated at 500 pounds per square inch a person passing through a pinprick hole could cut a person in half, stokers were not allowed to whistle on all ships using steam propulsion for fear it would be mistaken for a superheated steam leak! HMS Plymouth was a Royal Navy Rothesay -class frigate. Learn about the different types of accommodation available through the Royal Navy and find an option that meets your needs. WebDeparted HMNB Portsmouth for 7.5 month group deployment (TG 317.6) to Australia and Far East, escorting HMS Tiger and in company with RFA Grey Rover, RFA Regent, RFA Tarbatness and RFA Tidepool. They could get offloaded to a land based airstrip and would be useful in giving extra air support to the troops but that might be too risky as all the jets, fuel and munitions would be exposed. At the time that Ark Royal decommissioned one of the papersDaily Express I thinkgave readers the opportunity to buy a painting of the ship with its Phantoms and Buccaneers on the deck. This Endurance served an amazing career during the Falklands Conflict with D.E. Commander Task Group 324.3 and Flag Officer Submarines: Commander Task Group 317.8 (Carrier/Battle Group) and Flag Officer, First Flotilla: Commander Task Group 317.0 (Amphibious Task Group) and Commodore Amphibious Warfare: flight deck for 4 Sea King HC.4 (not embarked), This page was last edited on 25 December 2022, at 07:32. City of Worcester, When you need at least two on station, two on their way back and two getting ready to go, you have six aircraft constantly tied up at the least and thats only for one CAP station. With only three or four Gannets, a single accident or maintenence crisis would have had an outsized effect the Gannet force's operations. Reina del Pacifico (British, 17702 GRT, built 1931), Around 1120A/2, the destroyers HrMs Isaac Sweers (Capt. The 14 Phantoms and 14 Buccaneers would have been pressed very hard and the horrendous sea conditions in the South Atlantic might have well made launch and recovery impossible at times.. Therefore its likely that it would have never have crossed the Airforce mind to deploy theirs on ships. The message to the desperate Argentina government seemed clear. IIRC there were occasions where 25 de Mayo was unable to conduct operations due to the weather/sea state. Our days of being able to project influence through our military are over. Purse, DSC, RN), HMS Wheatland (Lt.Cdr. Turner, RN) made contact with the force and the ships were guided to their positions for the landings. A.F. Mark Twain (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942), We empower all our people, by respecting and valuing what makes them different. However, as a military aviator I completely sympathize with his annoyance with bad operations orders, micromanagement, wondering what higher ups are thinking and if they have any idea of your role or capabilities, withholding of information by those above, poor communication from your superiors and a lack of intelligence information. The only way we could realistically take on another country now is with the US and they have more than enough power projection of their own. Landing Craft (Utility) Foxtrot Four was the last Royal Navy vessel lost in the six-week war in the South Atlantic, attacked on the same day June 8 as the more well-known tragedy of Sir Galahad and Sir Tristram and the 200 casualties they suffered when bombed. N.A.F. Sailors and military personnel in the Falklands saluted the last Royal Navy ship damaged in the 1982 conflict. Its not as straightforward as many people make out. Interesting when you look into the political and strategic aspects that as early as 1966, the UK Defence White Paper had planned to scrap the British Aircraft carriers in the early 1970s, leaving Britain without an aircraft carrier capability. Community Hospital Eportal, Last of all, we shouldn't forget about Ark Royal's venerable Buccaneer strike aircraft. Forth then several more miles out to sea to the spot where the landing craft was last seen in 1982 following valiant efforts to salvage her, and the Still was piped in memory. 2014-2021 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. By 1978 Ark was incapable of making distilled water , needed for boilers and catapult launches , such were the state of her evaporators, she required the three RFAs that accompanied her to go alongside and RAS distilled water. You are right will, I referenced Nott as he was removed in 1981 (Start of the cuts). Indeed. AR being also capable of providing AEW via the Gannet gives the task force anywhere from 100-200 miles (about 10 or 15 minutes) warning about incoming raids. Agnew, CB, RN), HMS Newfoundland (Capt. Lacon, DSC, RN) departed Gibraltar to join convoy KMF A1 and relieve HMS Achates, HMS Antelope, HMS Amazon and HMS Wivern. Here are the instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser. Clark, DSC, RD RNR) and HMS Ulster Monarch (Lt.Cdr. It would have changed things, but I don't think it would have made it that much easier. The Phantoms would have been armed with the radar guided Sky Flash AAM. ADM numbers indicate documents at the British National Archives at Kew, London. Island nation that has the same sea but a fraction of the ship above or below the water. Following Royal Island nation that depends on imported energy to keep the lights on. This is very much a what if question, that has possibly been posed by other scholars. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations and Mandatory Fun, https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/hms-eagle-in-the-falklands.447558/. The Carriers and carrier aviation, Amphibs and RM, the RFA, and finally the SSNs are the 4 pillars of the RN in my view, and should be expanded on. Or have a friend or loved one who is? Finally, the scrapping of HMS Ark Royal took place in 1980, and this marked an end to the Royal Navys ability to project conventional fixed-wing air-power. At 2135A/7, the beacon submarine HMS P 45 (Lt. H.B. W.R.K. A. Stirling, RNR) and HMS Shiant (T/Lt. arks cmplement of aircraft would have been bolstered with harries perhaps taken from atlantic conveyor, where numerous air assets were lost. H. Day, RN), HMS Enchantress (Lt.Cdr. Powney, RNVR) departed Gibraltar to join the convoy KMS O1. Convoy KMF A 1 was to pass the Strait of Gibraltar around 0100A/6; it was made up of the (troop) transports; Tegelberg and L.H. Invincibles deck ws too short and dangerously narrow. Salacia, Richardson, DSO, DSC, RN) joined the convoy coming from the Azores. AR's Phantoms were certainly not equal to the dozens of Tomcats and Hornets the US carriers were cutting about with at the time but they were still solid aircraft, probably easily superior to the Argentine Daggers, Mirages and Skyhawks though numbers would be an issue, albeit one massively offset by each F-4 carrying 4 Skyflash SARH missiles plus 4 Sidewinders compared to the mere 2 Sidewinders of the Sea Harriers. Tiba and Falklands War. HMS Glamorgan was a County-class destroyer of the Royal Navy with a displacement of 5,440 tonnes. The ship was built by Vickers-Armstrongs in Newcastle Upon Tyne and named after the Welsh county of Glamorgan. Alcinous, Atlantic conveyor still would have gone, it wasnt just carrying harriers. White, RN), HMS Stork (Cdr. Trentham, RN), minesweepers HMS Brixham, HMS Bude, HMS Clacton, HMS Felixtowe, HMS Polruan (Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) So nothing really changes then, with wholesale disposal of assets only to discover they are needed just a few years later. This is also an area for any with an interest in all things HMS RHYL. Ocean Rider (British, 7178 GRT, built 1942), I disagree Steve, our new Carriers coupled with the planned airgroups will provide an extremely robust capability. Otranto (British, 20026 GRT, built 1925), Returned 20 Apr 1978. Hermes was to be scrapped in 1983, Invincible sold to Australia in December 82, Fearless was to be scrapped (rescinded a month or so before the invasion as compensation for the loss of Invincible, but she was still an old ship and would have probably been axed a few years later, and she wasnt a carrier so hardlyRead more , I was never a fan of Nott myself, but he did serve in the Army. Menzies, RN), HMS Penelope (Capt. Around 1830A/5, the M/S trawlers HMS Cava (T/Lt. Edward Rutledge, Buccaneers would have given the Task Force far greater reach and a far heftier punch. The AEW version of the Sea King arrived in theatre after the fighting was over. The carriers first line G.C.P. Good points. However, sadly the aircraft carriers which replaced her were not able to be equipped with traditional aircraft. J.H. Submit events/comments/updates for this vessel. Pound, DSC, RN) and HMS Whaddon (Lt.Cdr. Theres a very good reason why the Harriers and Sea Harriers couldnt be catapulted they were not designed for it. Chattanooga City (American, 5687 GRT, built 1921), Harcourt, CBE, RN), escort carrier HMS Biter (Capt. S.W.F. After dark on the 6th, the M/S trawlers HMS Coriolanus (T/Lt. T. Johnston, RN), sloops HMS Deptford (Lt.Cdr. Dempo, There is nothing at the site no wreck on the sea bed. Please use this if you spot mistakes or want to improve this ships page. Oxborrow, DSC, RN). St.J.R.J. Brooke, DSO, DSC and Bar, RN). Simpson, RNR) and HMS Rysa (T/Lt. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); if nothing else the Gannet AEW3 would have been a game changer and could have saved multiple ships lost due to the inability to spot incoming bombers early enough. If it necessary to create a 2 tier fleet of escortsRead more . Following Royal Probably they've end up being converted as Ark Royal wouldn't last forever and there was no appetite for a replacement. The second HMS Rhyl was marked F129. Convoy B ' was made up of the landing ship HMS Royal Ulsterman (Lt.Cdr. The equivelent of jumping up and down and shouting look at me. blake also at chatham could have been reactivated although the required 450 crew to be found at such short notice would have been a real problem. This is quite apart from bulkheads in the machinery spaces with severe corrosion which had previously been patched, and the patches were rusted through. Harry, I partially agree with you here, however, youve negated the fact of what Ark Royal could bring to the party. Ocean Rider, Group VII, 1st division, Empire Mordred, Havildar, Pacific Exporter and St. Essylt. Ocean Wanderer (British, 7178 GRT, built 1942), Thesues, Personnel from across the Services, veterans and members of the Falklands community joined the Royal Navys Landing Craft community in remembering the forgotten Our new Carriers and their air groups will certainly swing the proverbial big stick of foreign policy, to make people think twice! They did not reach Malta however. Nieuw Zeeland (British, 11069 GRT, built 1928), Salacia (British, 5495 GRT, built 1937), Whether its dealing with the demands of deployment or the rigours of relocation, we make sure that the family and friends of Naval Service personnel have all the help, guidance and support they need, every day. F.T. The wreck remains unlocated to this day. He never lived to collect it. Around 1000A/6, HMS Broke, HMS Malcolm, HMS Vanoc and HMS Wrestler joined ' Force O ' while the screen on ' Force O ' joined the convoy, the destroyers / escort destroyers involved were ORP Blyskawica (Lt.Cdr. I read that Bulwark was actually examined during the war to investigate if it could be brought quickly back into service and rushed south but its material state was too far gone by that time. Not only would we have had far to few aircraft, but those aircraft would have had a lower reaction and operation rate as the harriers. Once your force of twelve F-4s is reduced to ten, or eight, or six serviceable airframes it all starts to look a little more tenuous.". The following morning Foxtrot 4 was nowhere to be seen. J.D.L. This is a list of the naval forces from the United Kingdom that took part in the Falklands War, often referred to as "the Task Force" in the context of the war. Around 0800A/5, the minesweepers HMS Algerine (Lt.Cdr. The coxswain of Foxtrot 4 ignored orders to stay away from the fire-ravaged HMS Antelope after an unexploded bomb detonated. By 1982, the youngest airframes would have been nearly two decades old. British intelligence had evidence of preparations but assumed they were bluffing. No reason why Harriers, if deployed on CATO-BAR carriers in the Falklands War couldnt be Catapulted, and Land STOVL? Wodehouse, DSO, RN) also joined the convoy from ' Force O ' at the same time. The headquarters ships HMS Bulolo (Capt.(Retd.) Convoy C ' was made up of landing ship HMS Misoa (Lt.Cdr. 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